These are terrible pants- poorly sewn and very thin. I bought them because they were $20, and they ripped to shreds the first time I played in them. They are insanely thin (part of the pants you can actually see through!!)and have absolutely no padding whatsoever. The sides of the pants have a mesh-like material and they don't even fully cover your skin. If you move at all in these pants, they will tear. Mine tore in at least 10 places within the first hour of playing- unbelievable. I would give ZERO stars if I could. I trashed these things and bought a pair JT PRO pants.....a WORLD of difference.